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rahan - 14/02/2012 10:38 PM
#21

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Original Posted By laura.jelek
IELTS is like an unexplored territory for me, I have no clue
I have been heard all this rumors about how hard IELTS is, and probably these rumors are true takuts

I went to some Education Consultant like a week ago, they told me IELTS is freggin hard and i need to take some preparation class that would cost me 50 mil to secure my pass to a uni.

i never take English Courses before, is 50 mil over the top for this kind of course? or i just haven't been out much? hammer:

anyway, thank youuuu for this comprehensive info
i wish i could give you cendol, but i havent got my iso yet p


Hello there, ... 50 million rupiahs?

waw, that is awesome! It's expensive for me. Learning IELTS is a free thing, but some people prefer to do it the expensive way. As long as they have the money, then why not. Supply & Demand.

You should do a pre-test. You'll know what band you've got. Let's say you get band 6, then if you want to continue to study abroad taking Master program, you'll need band 7. Improving one band is not difficult if you're exposing yourself to English everyday. When you get used to the test format, it's piece of cake. Try to write at least 20 essays in a week. Post it in the writing thread, seek for feedback.

I wonder why the consultant said that it's hard if he/she hasn't given any pre-test. There is no such thing as "secure your pass to a uni". It's a marketing gimmick.
KLanese - 16/02/2012 09:32 AM
#22

Quote:
Original Posted By laura.jelek
IELTS is like an unexplored territory for me, I have no clue
I have been heard all this rumors about how hard IELTS is, and probably these rumors are true takuts

I went to some Education Consultant like a week ago, they told me IELTS is freggin hard and i need to take some preparation class that would cost me 50 mil to secure my pass to a uni.

i never take English Courses before, is 50 mil over the top for this kind of course? or i just haven't been out much? hammer:

anyway, thank youuuu for this comprehensive info
i wish i could give you cendol, but i havent got my iso yet p


I don't care. you;ve got to pay somebody to throw me a cendol D
anyway, we can't compare IELTS vs TOEFL gan laura. they're both different in test format, scoring system, aspect of skills tested, and destination countries. Have you got any plans for overseas study?



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Original Posted By kraitong
I am just sharing :

For TOEFL IBT : I took the test on 8 Jan 2012

The result available on web score after a week.

They sent my report by mail on 23 Jan 2012 and I received it today 14 Jan 2012.

So It will take 5-6 weeks if you need the printed score report available for your admission. But you can do print screen or print the web score report if the university allows you to do that.
So calculate your time before you take the test.

For Toefl IBT, i suggest you to register 3-4 weeks before the test to ensure availability and you can choose good location near your house.

IBT is easy if you well prepared !

Just use The simulation program for reading, listening, and speaking.

For Speaking, you can use youtube.com for some tips. I used it and it is good.

For writing, this is the lowest score i gotten, i think you have to read more and write more. Use simple grammar and simple word but suit to the topic.

For my test i got 94. Reading 27 Reading 25 Speaking 22 Writing 20 and i just used the simulation program from the KAPLAN IBT book 2010-2011.

Good Luck for you all.


nice score gan, but you're a bit weak @writing right? I believe if you could get 27 point for reading, your writing point should have been higherbeer:
but overall, you did really well for the test shakehand
kraitong - 16/02/2012 04:20 PM
#23

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Original Posted By KLanese

nice score gan, but you're a bit weak @writing right? I believe if you could get 27 point for reading, your writing point should have been higherbeer:
but overall, you did really well for the test shakehand


What can i say ? I have never been writing an English paper .. So i think it is the common problem for us, to have a good writing skill, lack of experiences.
And lucky for me , i have got high score in reading and listening point. hehhehehheheh....
KLanese - 16/02/2012 09:56 PM
#24

Quote:
Original Posted By kraitong
What can i say ? I have never been writing an English paper .. So i think it is the common problem for us, to have a good writing skill, lack of experiences.
And lucky for me , i have got high score in reading and listening point. hehhehehheheh....


yup, can't agree with you more. We; the Indonesian students, have to admit that writing has never been such an exciting habit which can be put in our daily experience. However, many international schools have adopted and used IGCSE curriculum that strengthen students' power of writing and as conclusion, this effort is really successful
alehandroo - 17/02/2012 10:09 AM
#25

I never take an IELTS test before, but now I attending IELTS prep.class and my test will held on 25th this month.

Here's some tips for IELTS test reading section:
DON'T read the whole passage. why? because it's just waste your time. what you have to do are:
a. read the 1st, 2nd, and the last sentence for each paragraph and underline the keyword (name, date, etc). my teacher said that the beautiful writer will put the main idea on the 1st or last sentence in each paragraph. so if you do that, you'll find that the passage is like a circle, connected. especially the first and the last sentence on the passage.
b. underline the 'keyword' for each questions and words on passage. it makes you easier to find out what actually the question about, and find it on passage. the keyword on questions, sometimes, it's the synonym or the opposite on passage. so be careful.
c. sometimes, you'll find a tricky question.if you still confuse, you can read the the whole paragraph which is related to the question. but again, don't read the whole passage!
d. if you can't answer the question, leave it 1st, continue to answer the other. than if you already finished the other questions, you can back to the hardest one. time management.

for writing section:
a. don't use: etc, e.g, and so on and so far because IELTS test is a formal test, so you have to use a formal language too. and also don't write "DON'T", but "DO NOT". why? because it's more formal.
b. put ONLY ONE main idea for each paragraph
c. don't repeat your sentence or words. try to use the other words but with the same meaning (synonym).
d. develop your main idea (supporting details)

I hope these tips can be useful for you, especially for you guys who want to take an IELTS test. and, wish me luck on my test, peeps
*sorry for my horrible grammar Yb

oh, one more. I'm doing practice using INSEARCH IELTS ACADEMIC book. well, I must say it's quite enough helped me to do some practice. the price is around 125k on bookstore.

Qualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]
KLanese - 17/02/2012 10:33 AM
#26

Quote:
Original Posted By alehandroo
I never take an IELTS test before, but now I attending IELTS prep.class and my test will held on 25th this month.

Here's some tips for IELTS test reading section:
DON'T read the whole passage. why? because it's just waste your time. what you have to do are:
a. read the 1st, 2nd, and the last sentence for each paragraph and underline the keyword (name, date, etc). my teacher said that the beautiful writer will put the main idea on the 1st or last sentence in each paragraph. so if you do that, you'll find that the passage is like a circle, connected. especially the first and the last sentence on the passage.
b. underline the 'keyword' for each questions and words on passage. it makes you easier to find out what actually the question about, and find it on passage. the keyword on questions, sometimes, it's the synonym or the opposite on passage. so be careful.
c. sometimes, you'll find a tricky question.if you still confuse, you can read the the whole paragraph which is related to the question. but again, don't read the whole passage!
d. if you can't answer the question, leave it 1st, continue to answer the other. than if you already finished the other questions, you can back to the hardest one. time management.

for writing section:
a. don't use: etc, e.g, and so on and so far because IELTS test is a formal test, so you have to use a formal language too. and also don't write "DON'T", but "DO NOT". why? because it's more formal.
b. put ONLY ONE main idea for each paragraph
c. don't repeat your sentence or words. try to use the other words but with the same meaning (synonym).
d. develop your main idea (supporting details)

I hope these tips can be useful for you, especially for you guys who want to take an IELTS test. and, wish me luck on my test, peeps
*sorry for my horrible grammar Yb

oh, one more. I'm doing practice using INSEARCH IELTS ACADEMIC book. well, I must say it's quite enough helped me to do some practice. the price is around 125k on bookstore.

Qualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]


nice and helpful IELTS share gan. somebody has the link for free insearch IELTS academic book? D
KLanese - 17/02/2012 12:23 PM
#27

Here is another good sample of iBT TOEFL Writing Task 2 (Essay). I took it from internet. This writing is worth 4 points D

“Some people believe that it is very important to make large amounts of money, while others are satisfied to earn a comfortable living”

Response1:

In life people choose to live different lifestyles. Some aim to earn as much money as they can and disregard anything else, while there are other people who care for other things rather than money. Some even go to the extreme and live an ascetic life.

Those who just care for money claim that in a capitalist society like the one we live, money is the only thing that counts and that it is the mean to them to get whatever they want from the usual nice houses and cars to sex and affection. They also claim that by making big money now; they will not have to worry about their retirement perspectives. Of course, most of them have to work long hours to make such earnings and may not have the time to enjoy the pleasures awarded by such wealth. It is a current joke that rich people don’t take advantage of their fortune, only their wives and her mistress do.

On the other hand, there are some people who choose to live a more balanced life. Their preferences are more equally distributed between earning a huge amount of money and other activities. These people report to value other objectives in their lives such as parenting or volunteering. Their claim that they want to see their kids growing up is almost a cliché by now.

Of course one has to define what a comfortable life is. If it comprises not worrying about ends meet and having some luxury pleasures once in a while like leisure traveling or going out to dinner in a fancy restaurant, then I would say I am a comfortable living proponent. But if comfortable living means living barely as a monk than I am definitely an earn money type of person.

Response2:

Money does matter a lot in today's world.Money moves each and every subject towards it's destination.To access a comfortable living and to satisfy yourself along with your families' needs meeting all their basic requirements as well as to ensure a comfortable living , at end of the day, requires huge amounts.Hence, I believe in making money, lots and lots of it. I, in life, want a stage where you can never say "no" to a particular situation just because you are falling short of funds, leaving apart the highly impossibles like a desire to travel to space.
Firstly, having great funds will help us achieve our goals and to pursue our interests.The very journey called life made me cognitive of the fact. For example I always wanted to be an aeronautical engineer especially doing specializing in the field of electronics and hold an advanced degree in avionic control systems.I had all the academic eligibilities to so and having gone through a series of tests was forced to take back my admission in one of the premier institutes because I coudn't meet the financial requirements.This isn't fair at all.The agony I went through at that point deep seeded this opinion in me.
Second, I have seen many people who enjoy their life in a myriad of ways just by squandering their money.I coudn't go to my favorite show, coudn't get the dress of my choice, coudn't have what I really wanted to have in a restaurant just because of the price tags they carry.This very evident truth has created a deep rooted frustation in me.
Moreover, I felt really disgusted when I have seen many poor people who could not even afford two square meals a day just because they lack money.I always wanted to help them, I wanted to establish charities, various trusts and inorder to do so, one has to earn a fancy.The microsoft pioneer, Bill Gates and his Malinda Gates Foundation has always been my inspiration in this regard.
Last but not the least, though i believe in earning more, I don't believe that one should do so at the cost of his relations and sentiments.Choosing a right path to earn money and a living a life of dignity is equally important.Furthermore, one has to always take care of his family and should never leave them isolated, making them devoid of your love and care.I have seen many people do this, leaving their parents, family and children, and finally ending up with a whole lot of money and nothing else.For example, I have seen people who ended up giving their huge treasures to pet animals, dying with no one to take care and share their thoughts during their senility.
Hence for the above said reasons, I would like to earn more money but in the process would never risk my relations and would never do so at the cost of care and love of my near and dear ones.
laura.jelek - 17/02/2012 05:13 PM
#28

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Original Posted By rahan
Hello there, ... 50 million rupiahs?

waw, that is awesome! It's expensive for me. Learning IELTS is a free thing, but some people prefer to do it the expensive way. As long as they have the money, then why not. Supply & Demand.

You should do a pre-test. You'll know what band you've got. Let's say you get band 6, then if you want to continue to study abroad taking Master program, you'll need band 7. Improving one band is not difficult if you're exposing yourself to English everyday. When you get used to the test format, it's piece of cake. Try to write at least 20 essays in a week. Post it in the writing thread, seek for feedback.

I wonder why the consultant said that it's hard if he/she hasn't given any pre-test. There is no such thing as "secure your pass to a uni". It's a marketing gimmick.


yeah, i think i should do the pre-test :nohope
20 essays in a week?eek: i am not a good writer :nohope
writing is NOT my strong suit, i should build my 'fancy' vocabulary

Quote:
Original Posted By KLanese
I don't care. you;ve got to pay somebody to throw me a cendol D
anyway, we can't compare IELTS vs TOEFL gan laura. they're both different in test format, scoring system, aspect of skills tested, and destination countries. Have you got any plans for overseas study?


hahaha, sure gan.. will blackmail my friend to give cendol for you D

hmm actually i never take TOEFL, i took ETS-TOEIC when i was in college as mandatory requirement for graduation and it wasnt so hard at all, it was full multiple choice test. what I am truly afraid of are this speaking and writing test takuts

I am really want to learn to nail this thing D
there are a lot of helpful ebooks, but my connection is as slow as snail.
KLanese - 22/02/2012 02:49 PM
#29

Quote:
Original Posted By laura.jelek



hahaha, sure gan.. will blackmail my friend to give cendol for you D

hmm actually i never take TOEFL, i took ETS-TOEIC when i was in college as mandatory requirement for graduation and it wasnt so hard at all, it was full multiple choice test. what I am truly afraid of are this speaking and writing test takuts

I am really want to learn to nail this thing D
there are a lot of helpful ebooks, but my connection is as slow as snail.


you can find many kaskusers do the downloading as you request. just give him/her the links with your quota estimation, and give fees as the service. then the things that you want to DL are sent to your house/destination in DVDs. ~so easy~ (*find them at FJB thread in the sub forum "Other")
angga386 - 25/02/2012 04:13 PM
#30

nice thread.. tq 4 info..
yuiii - 26/02/2012 08:42 AM
#31

guys, i am seaching for english course night class in cilegon except private. ada yang tau tempatnya gk?
KLanese - 26/02/2012 12:50 PM
#32

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Original Posted By angga386
nice thread.. tq 4 info..


no share about toefl or ielts gan? D


Quote:
Original Posted By yuiii
guys, i am seaching for english course night class in cilegon except private. ada yang tau tempatnya gk?


Guys? anyone can help gan Yuiii about this??
angga386 - 26/02/2012 04:33 PM
#33

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Original Posted By KLanese
no share about toefl or ielts gan? D


i don't understand what's the point of your words.. D
sorry my english was very terrible.. malus
KLanese - 27/02/2012 12:05 PM
#34

Quote:
Original Posted By angga386
i don't understand what's the point of your words.. D
sorry my english was very terrible.. malus


Well, what my point was... have you got something to share about your IELTS/TOEFL experience? D

Any good inputs are really welcome to this thread shakehand
blinkawan - 29/02/2012 09:05 AM
#35

considering the fee that is not cheap
if we fail for the test is there another chance to retake the test?
KLanese - 29/02/2012 11:04 PM
#36

Quote:
Original Posted By blinkawan
considering the fee that is not cheap
if we fail for the test is there another chance to retake the test?


fail means you don't achieve your target score?
if you wish to retake the test then there must be another repay for it. same price, 175USD
blinkawan - 01/03/2012 01:25 PM
#37

Quote:
Original Posted By KLanese
fail means you don't achieve your target score?
if you wish to retake the test then there must be another repay for it. same price, 175USD


gooooood
okay, i have to achieve my target score then
well
thank you
D
justformilis - 03/03/2012 07:09 PM
#38

hi, from now on I will focus on studying TOEFL, but I always encounter difficulties in listening test, I tried to learn from listening to music and watch TV, but not very significant, anyone can help how to do the listening test well?
KLanese - 05/03/2012 12:20 AM
#39

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Original Posted By justformilis
hi, from now on I will focus on studying TOEFL, but I always encounter difficulties in listening test, I tried to learn from listening to music and watch TV, but not very significant, anyone can help how to do the listening test well?


you didn't elaborate the way you did the practice on listening, what did you actually mean by "not significant?". Listening the basic skill of learning English. well, try the podcast then. hope it works D
milorambaldy - 08/03/2012 12:43 PM
#40

Hi Gan,

maybe somebody here can help me, my boss asking me to take IELTS test on march 31 , but i am litle bit not confidence pass this test, but he ok if i'm take the preparation IELTS Lesson,

i need the information about place of courses in Semarang or bandung.

thanks
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