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rainever - 09/06/2010 11:47 AM
#21

Prikitiiiewww....

i am not good enough in english, it's Awesome......

ijin bookmak....
niwa - 09/06/2010 09:47 PM
#22

Guys, I'm still confused with "on, in, at", When is the time i shud use one of those? Example, "please upload your video on/in/at youtube". Thankyou D
dianw - 09/06/2010 10:17 PM
#23

Quote:
Original Posted By niwa
Guys, I'm still confused with "on, in, at", When is the time i shud use one of those? Example, "please upload your video on/in/at youtube". Thankyou D


In your example, you should use at.
In, on, at can be used as location preposition, time preposition, etc.
The usage of each preposition will be different from another.
vidavacia - 09/06/2010 10:56 PM
#24

Quote:
Original Posted By niwa
Guys, I'm still confused with "on, in, at", When is the time i shud use one of those? Example, "please upload your video on/in/at youtube". Thankyou D


Quote:
Original Posted By dianw
In your example, you should use at.
In, on, at can be used as location preposition, time preposition, etc.
The usage of each preposition will be different from another.


are you sure? try to google it. is it AT youtube or ON youtube? D
to my knowledge, the right preposition for a website is ON.
on facebook, on twitter, on youtube, on kaskus \)
l08l - 10/06/2010 12:12 AM
#25

Quote:
Original Posted By vidavacia
are you sure? try to google it. is it AT youtube or ON youtube? D
to my knowledge, the right preposition for a website is ON.
on facebook, on twitter, on youtube, on kaskus \)


mmmmm... Login... Logon... Sign in.... Sign on... all used...
StrawberryFuzz - 10/06/2010 01:01 AM
#26

im a little confuse bout past tense
like "had been" n sumthin like dat
how to use it ?
unitedforone07 - 10/06/2010 01:35 AM
#27

Quote:
Original Posted By StrawberryFuzz
im a little confuse bout past tense
like "had been" n sumthin like dat
how to use it ?


Good , it is called Past Perfect Tense ...

To make it obvious , it was the occasion that PRECEEDED the Past Tense ..
( kejadian sebelum past tense dan sudah selesai di masa past tense tsb ).

Ex :

-I had been walking two miles away before I met you on the highway yesterday ....

( Actually I am speaking that sentence TODAY )..


Second scenario :

Had been ( Past Perfect ) is also used for Indirect Speech ... You got it ?
I thought it was obvious since we would tell someone about something happening in the past .....
kadal_jantan - 10/06/2010 08:29 AM
#28

which one is correct??

Now i know what will she do
or
Now i know what she will do
????
kadal_jantan - 10/06/2010 08:49 AM
#29

OMG....
it's a brand new grammar's thread. i had a question which wasn't read in old thread. anyone knows where the old thread is??? iloveindonesia
p1nk3d_books - 06/06/2010 01:03 PM
#30
Wow capcay-ku 666!!
Quote:
Original Posted By superultra
hallo brothers & sisters,

saya masih bingung kapan kita menggunakan imbuhan "The"?
dan fungsi "The" sendiri itu seperti apa?

thx in advance


repost2

The adalah definite article atau kata sandang tertentu yang sering digunakan dalam bahasa Inggris. Kata the dapat berarti itu.


The selalu diletakkan di depan kata benda atau nomina, dan juga di depan adjektiva atau kata lainnya yang menerangkan kata benda tersebut, contoh: the man, the old man, etc.

Bentuk article the digunakan tanpa membedakan atau berlaku sama untuk kata benda tunggal/jamak, kata benda dapat dihitung/tidak dapat dihitung, maupun gender (jenis kelamin), contoh: the boy, the boys, the woman, the children, the ice, the dust, etc.


Definite article the digunakan:

1. di depan nomina yang telah disebutkan sebelumnya.
- I ordered a pizza and salad. The pizza was nice but the salad was disgusting.
- There were three questions. The first two were relatively easy but the third one was hard.

2. di depan nomina yang unik atau dianggap hanya ada satu, misalnya: the sun, the moon, the world, the earth.

3. di depan nomina atau frase nomina yang menunjukkan seseorang atau sesuatu yang telah ditentukan, misalnya: the dress I wore, the girl in red, the time I met him, the road to Bali, the man that I meet.

4. di depan suatu nomina yang sudah umum diketahui.
- What was the weather like?
- I looked out into the darkness.
- The shops open at 9 o'clock.

5. untuk menunjukkan orang atau objek tertentu yang kita maksud.
- The man who wrote this book is famous.
- Which car did you scratch? The red one.
- My house is the one with a green door.

6. bila satu sama lain, dalam percakapan, mengerti apa yang sedang dibicarakan, meskipun tidak disebutkan sebelumnya.
- Where’s the bathroom? It’s on the first floor.

7. sebelum superlatives, ordinal numbers, dan kata only, misalnya: the highest building, the sweetest thing, the only way, the first page, the last chapter.

8. sebelum adjektiva untuk membentuk nomina (plural) yang menunjukkan orang dengan tipe tertentu atau orang yang tinggal di negara tertentu, misalnya: the poor, the unemployed, the elderly, the British, the French, the impossible, etc.
- He knows he’s wishing for the impossible.
- I thought you might like to read the enclosed.

9. di depan nama laut, sungai, kepulauan, pegunungan, gurun, wilayah, atau tempat yang berkaitan dengan alam atau bumi, misalnya: the Caribbean, the Sahara, the Atlantic, the Pacific Ocean, the Mississippi, the Alps, the gulf of Mexico.

10. di depan nomina yang menunjukkan satuan waktu seperti abad, dekade, dan tanggal, misalnya: the 12th of December, the beginning, in the morning, during the whole year.
- In the thirties unemployment was widespread.
- She remembers the war years.

11. di awal sekelompok nomina dimana pada nomina yang pertama diikuti oleh of phrase atau klausa yang menunjukkan sesuatu atau seseorang.
- There has been a slight increase in the consumption of meat.
- Of the 9,660 cases processed last year, only 10 per cent were totally rejected.

12. dapat menggantikan possessive determiner, terutama saat membicarakan anggota sebuah keluarga atau bagian tubuh seseorang.
- I patted him on the head.
- “How’s the family?” – “Just fine, thank you”.

13. pada nama alat musik saat membicarakan kemampuan seseorang memainkan alat musik tersebut.
- She was trying to teach him to play the guitar.
- He plays the violin.

14. di depan nomina tunggal (singular noun) saat membuat pernyataan umum yang mewakili golongan atau tipe dari sesuatu atau seseorang tertentu.
- The tiger is without doubt the most magnificent of the big cats.
- The computer has changed everyone’s lives in so many ways.

15. untuk menunjukkan suatu keluarga atau pasangan suami istri dengan menyebutkan nama keluarganya dalam bentuk plural. The diletakkan di depannya.
- The Taylors decided that they would employ an architect to do the work.
- The Johnsons had lived in this house for many years.

16. untuk menunjukkan bahwa sesuatu yang dimiliki itu cukup (enough) untuk melakukan tujuan tertentu.
- I haven’t the time to talk just now.
- He didn’t have the strength to go on fighting.

17. di depan comparative adjectives or adverbs.
- The longer you have been in shape in the past, the quicker you will regain fitness in future.

18. ketika menyatakan suatu nilai, harga dan ukuran, the dipakai untuk menunjukkan berapa banyak unit digunakan pada sesuatu yang diukur/dinilai tersebut.
- New Japanese cars averaged 13 km to the litre in 1981.
- Some analysts predicted that the exchange rate would soon be $2 to the pound.

19. untuk menunjukkan bahwa seseorang atau sesuatu itu sangat penting, terkenal, atau yang terbaik diantara yang lainnya. Dalam percakapan, the diucapkan lebih jelas atau diberi penekanan, sedangkan dalam tulisan diberi garis bawah atau ditulis dalam huruf besar atau huruf miring.
- ‘Elizabeth Taylor was there.’ ‘Not the Elizabeth Taylor, surely?’
- Miami is THE place for girls who like to live life to the full.

20. bersama dengan satuan pengukuran (unit of measurement), the dapat berarti every (setiap/tiap-tiap).
- My car does forty miles to the gallon.
- You get paid by the hour.

21. bersama dengan satuan waktu (unit of time), the dapat berarti sekarang atau saat ini.
- Why not have the dish of the day?
- She’s flavour of the month with him.

22. sebelum nomina yang mengacu pada suatu tindakan atau perubahan, yang juga diikuti oleh kata of.
- the growth of the steel industry
- the arrival of our guests

23. sebelum nomina tunggal (singular noun) yang menunjukkan jenis dari institusi, toko, sistem, dsb.
- You used to buy them from the chemist.
- I heard it on the radio.
- I’ll put it in the mail for you today.

24. untuk mengacu pada bagian dari organ tubuh seseorang.
- Lieutenant Taylor was wounded in the knee.
- How’s the ankle? Is it still hurting?

25. untuk mengacu pada jenis atau even olahraga, terutama atletik atau renang.
- Who won the long jump?
- She swam up and down, practising the crawl.

26. dalam percakapan sebelum suatu kata atau frase yang menggambarkan seseorang atau sesuatu ketika marah, iri, terkejut, dsb.
- He’s stolen my parking space, the bastard!
- I can’t get this carton open, the stupid thing.
- “Jamie’s won a holiday in Hawaii.” “The lucky devil!”

27. sebelum nama penyakit atau sakit tertentu yang lazim kita alami.
- If one of the children got the measles, we all got the measles.
- Aspirin should help reduce the fever.

28. sebelum nama bangunan yang diperuntukkan untuk kepentingan umum.
- the Town Hall
- the Science Museum
nottoohandsome - 10/06/2010 09:33 AM
#31

I think we should start make an FAQ for this thread. There are lot of questions that have been asked before so many times..

Where's the old thread anyway? Someone deleted it? There are lot questions been answered there that can be learned by those who want to search..
dianw - 10/06/2010 02:00 PM
#32

Quote:
Original Posted By vidavacia
are you sure? try to google it. is it AT youtube or ON youtube? D
to my knowledge, the right preposition for a website is ON.
on facebook, on twitter, on youtube, on kaskus \)


Which one is the correct one?
You can find the article needed at www.kaskus.us

or

You can find the article needed on www.kaskus.us



At kaskus.us you can find anything you want

or

On kaskus.us you can find anything you want
yosdotqyqy - 11/06/2010 02:32 AM
#33

new thread D
where is the old one?

mw nanya gan..
kalo while atau when ada di depan kalimat
atau jadi subject.
verbnya harus jadi bentuk apa?

while (queue) to buy the concert ticket, the man with the beard stole the young lady's purse.

explain please DAll about Grammar & Tenses - The correct way to say/use .... ask it here !!
StrawberryFuzz - 11/06/2010 02:55 AM
#34

Quote:
Original Posted By unitedforone07
Good , it is called Past Perfect Tense ...

To make it obvious , it was the occasion that PRECEEDED the Past Tense ..
( kejadian sebelum past tense dan sudah selesai di masa past tense tsb ).

Ex :

-I had been walking two miles away before I met you on the highway yesterday ....

( Actually I am speaking that sentence TODAY )..


Second scenario :

Had been ( Past Perfect ) is also used for Indirect Speech ... You got it ?
I thought it was obvious since we would tell someone about something happening in the past .....


oh ok,i got it
thx a lot D
i hate grammar
Orthanc - 11/06/2010 10:58 AM
#35

Quote:
Original Posted By kadal_jantan
which one is correct??

Now i know what will she do
or
Now i know what she will do
????


the second one bro.

What will she do(?) >-- question

What she will do >-- statement
Orthanc - 11/06/2010 11:03 AM
#36

Quote:
Original Posted By dianw
Which one is the correct one?
You can find the article needed at www.kaskus.us

or

You can find the article needed on www.kaskus.us



At kaskus.us you can find anything you want

or

On kaskus.us you can find anything you want


the general convention on designating locations inside the web nowadays favors "AT" as in "@" instead of "on", "in", etc. However, with regards to files, programs, and other materials accessible through offline means, normal prepositions may apply, and in this case "IN" does best for these things.

I can find it at www.kaskus.us
I can find it inside (as an alternate form of in) the "tapestries.doc" file in my hard drive.

CMIIW.
superultra - 11/06/2010 11:34 AM
#37

good morning everybody

i am still confused about these sentences:

[*]How did you know it was her?
[*]How did you know it was she?



based on what i have read, the correct one is number 2, but i still don't understand, why do we use 'she' not 'her'?

thanks in advance
vidavacia - 11/06/2010 11:53 AM
#38

Quote:
Original Posted By niwa
Guys, I'm still confused with "on, in, at", When is the time i shud use one of those? Example, "please upload your video on/in/at youtube". Thankyou D


Quote:
Original Posted By dianw
Which one is the correct one?
You can find the article needed at www.kaskus.us

or

You can find the article needed on www.kaskus.us



At kaskus.us you can find anything you want

or

On kaskus.us you can find anything you want


Quote:
Original Posted By Orthanc
the general convention on designating locations inside the web nowadays favors "AT" as in "@" instead of "on", "in", etc. However, with regards to files, programs, and other materials accessible through offline means, normal prepositions may apply, and in this case "IN" does best for these things.

I can find it at www.kaskus.us
I can find it inside (as an alternate form of in) the "tapestries.doc" file in my hard drive.

CMIIW.


one of the most difficult subjects in english, imo, is preposition.
here are some sentences that i found on wikipedia about youtube:

- Most of the content on YouTube has been uploaded by individuals,..
- Despite this advice, there are still many unauthorized clips from television shows, films and music videos on YouTube.
- The case involved Stephanie Lenz from Gallitzin, Pennsylvania, who had made a home video of her 13-month-old son dancing to Prince's song "Let's Go Crazy" and posted the 29-second video on YouTube.

however, if it's the exact address like www.kaskus.us, yes, the right preposition is AT.
here's an example from cambridge advanced learner's dictionary:
For more information about other Cambridge publications, visit our website at www.cambridge.org.
Orthanc - 11/06/2010 12:19 PM
#39

Quote:
Original Posted By vidavacia
one of the most difficult subjects in english, imo, is preposition.
here are some sentences that i found on wikipedia about youtube:

- Most of the content on YouTube has been uploaded by individuals,..
- Despite this advice, there are still many unauthorized clips from television shows, films and music videos on YouTube.
- The case involved Stephanie Lenz from Gallitzin, Pennsylvania, who had made a home video of her 13-month-old son dancing to Prince's song "Let's Go Crazy" and posted the 29-second video on YouTube.

however, if it's the exact address like www.kaskus.us, yes, the right preposition is AT.
here's an example from cambridge advanced learner's dictionary:
For more information about other Cambridge publications, visit our website [B]at www.cambridge.org[/B].


perhaps it's difficult because it tends to force people to memorize them for each situation rather than offering a special usage logic (although eventually the sum of these habits will constitute a convention, which may bear a certain "logic" in itself to justify this and that D).

shakehand2 yes, you are right about when to use AT and other prepositions in the case which I boldened above. actually a similar experience in this case can be seen in how people refer to E-mails, inboxes, etc. where they tend to use IN.

I can't find the message in my inbox.

Inbox isn't a site, whether it's by name or URL, but it's part of the internet/web glossary, and in such cases, normal prepositioning may apply. But in this case, people will even need to create a convention on what to use for certain situations, back to square 1 D
vidavacia - 11/06/2010 11:20 PM
#40

Quote:
Original Posted By Orthanc
perhaps it's difficult because it tends to force people to memorize them for each situation rather than offering a special usage logic (although eventually the sum of these habits will constitute a convention, which may bear a certain "logic" in itself to justify this and that D).

shakehand2 yes, you are right about when to use AT and other prepositions in the case which I boldened above. actually a similar experience in this case can be seen in how people refer to E-mails, inboxes, etc. where they tend to use IN.

I can't find the message in my inbox.

Inbox isn't a site, whether it's by name or URL, but it's part of the internet/web glossary, and in such cases, normal prepositioning may apply. But in this case, people will even need to create a convention on what to use for certain situations, back to square 1 D


yep. let's go back to niwa's question:
"please upload your video on/in/at youtube"
? ? ?

ON D p
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