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anak_singkong - 11/10/2012 12:14 PM
#5621

request permission to speak Indonesia. iloveindonesias

- Play football is his hobby.
- Playing football is his hobby.

dari kedua kalimat tsb..mana yg artinya: Hobinya bermain sepakbola.
icalblg - 11/10/2012 12:18 PM
#5622

misi para mastah2 ane dateng lagi mau nanya bolehhh ??? D Peace: kejadian yg lalu biarkan berlalu ngakaksngakaks
ane nemu kalimat dlm lirik lagu nihh :

"ill try" she said as he walked away "try not to lose you"

yg mau di tanyain itu kata "as" maksudnya apa yaa???
apa "as he walked away" itu kalimat yg dikatakan?? tp di akhir/di awal kalimat ada kalimat yg dikutip yg brrti itu kalimat yg dikatakan oleh si "she" tsb...

bingung

thanks D ill wait for ur answer ;) god bless you Peace:
icalblg - 11/10/2012 12:21 PM
#5623

Quote:
Original Posted By anak_singkong
request permission to speak Indonesia. iloveindonesias

- Play football is his hobby.
- Playing football is his hobby.

dari kedua kalimat tsb..mana yg artinya: Hobinya bermain sepakbola.


- Playing football is his hobby. CMIIW gan Peace: \)
p1nk3d_books - 11/10/2012 12:48 PM
#5624

Quote:
Original Posted By icalblg
misi para mastah2 ane dateng lagi mau nanya bolehhh ??? D Peace: kejadian yg lalu biarkan berlalu ngakaksngakaks
ane nemu kalimat dlm lirik lagu nihh :

"ill try" she said as he walked away "try not to lose you"

yg mau di tanyain itu kata "as" maksudnya apa yaa???
apa "as he walked away" itu kalimat yg dikatakan?? tp di akhir/di awal kalimat ada kalimat yg dikutip yg brrti itu kalimat yg dikatakan oleh si "she" tsb...

bingung

thanks D ill wait for ur answer ;) god bless you Peace:


1. as = sambil
2. bukan kalimat yg dikatakan, kalimat yg diucapkan ya hanya yang ada " nya
Zxva - 11/10/2012 06:52 PM
#5625

Mr. A is interviewed on kaskus (kok ada 'is' ya ?)
klo di BB picture has been sent .... (kok pake been ya ?)
mohon pencerahannya sepuh ..
ferret - 11/10/2012 07:44 PM
#5626

Quote:
Original Posted By ferret
Human resources is hard to be imitated by competitors
or
Human resources is hard to imitateby competitors

bingung


Quote:
Original Posted By ivandjaw
harusnya yg pertama yah

CMIIW


hmm, tp kl antara:
that's a good example to be followed
dan that's a good example to follow
knp kl di google lebih condong ke yg kedua dibanding yg kesatu?
padahal yg secara grammarnya benar kn yg kesatu

bingung
loc - 11/10/2012 11:45 PM
#5627

Quote:
Original Posted By ferret
hmm, tp kl antara:
that's a good example to be followed
dan that's a good example to follow
knp kl di google lebih condong ke yg kedua dibanding yg kesatu?
padahal yg secara grammarnya benar kn yg kesatu

bingung


i'll try and keep it simple, so here it is:

Spoiler for Practical English Usage 3rd Ed, sec.284, p.260
All about Grammar & Tenses - The correct way to say/use .... ask it here !!

so, if you rephrase your sentences above:

[*]That's a good example to follow = It is good to follow that example. thumbup:
[*]That's a good example to be followed = It is good to be followed that example. thumbdown


easy, eh? and, as i wrote above, i'm trying to keep it simple. you may find exceptions (of course!), mainly to avoid confusion as to the meaning of the sentence. but i'm not going into that for now. \)
wedeeew - 12/10/2012 12:44 AM
#5628

thank you for all of you... is a very good good post/thread. i learn a lot from here.. iloveindonesias
kalunggaezy - 12/10/2012 09:00 PM
#5629

i wan to ask about, how diferent betwen you & your ..

i am always, look, people using you or your, but i can not find the diferent \) ..
Badroid - 12/10/2012 09:15 PM
#5630

selamat malam gan,

sory mau tny, saya inggrisnya pas-pasan masi bingung gmn biar bisa meningkatkan skill membaca saya ya? kira-kira tahapannya apa aja?

lalu untuk reduce clause itu biar gampang mengerti bgmana ya?

thx
ferret - 12/10/2012 09:46 PM
#5631

Quote:
Original Posted By loc
i'll try and keep it simple, so here it is:

Spoiler for Practical English Usage 3rd Ed, sec.284, p.260
All about Grammar & Tenses - The correct way to say/use .... ask it here !!

so, if you rephrase your sentences above:

[*]That's a good example to follow = It is good to follow that example. thumbup:
[*]That's a good example to be followed = It is good to be followed that example. thumbdown


easy, eh? and, as i wrote above, i'm trying to keep it simple. you may find exceptions (of course!), mainly to avoid confusion as to the meaning of the sentence. but i'm not going into that for now. \)


that makes sense now! D
big thanks \)
ivandjaw - 13/10/2012 12:48 AM
#5632

Quote:
Original Posted By loc
i'll try and keep it simple, so here it is:

Spoiler for Practical English Usage 3rd Ed, sec.284, p.260
All about Grammar & Tenses - The correct way to say/use .... ask it here !!

so, if you rephrase your sentences above:

[*]That's a good example to follow = It is good to follow that example. thumbup:
[*]That's a good example to be followed = It is good to be followed that example. thumbdown


easy, eh? and, as i wrote above, i'm trying to keep it simple. you may find exceptions (of course!), mainly to avoid confusion as to the meaning of the sentence. but i'm not going into that for now. \)


Quote:
Original Posted By ferret
that makes sense now! D
big thanks \)


it depends on the sentence that you are going to use, both of the 1st one are right while the other way of expressing it can't be compared to the original expression as the structure is different

i may be wrong, but i'd say that there are no exact rules that govern this expression cendolb
loc - 13/10/2012 02:08 AM
#5633

Quote:
Original Posted By kalunggaezy
i wan to ask about, how diferent betwen you & your ..

i always, look, people using you or your, but i can find the diferent \) ..

have you read page 1, post #1 of this thread? the answer is there.


Quote:
Original Posted By Badroid
selamat malam gan,

sory mau tny, saya inggrisnya pas-pasan masi bingung gmn biar bisa meningkatkan skill membaca saya ya? kira-kira tahapannya apa aja?

lalu untuk reduce clause itu biar gampang mengerti bgmana ya?

thx

garis besarnya, ada 2 reading skills (untuk belajar bahasa apapun sebetulnya, bukan cuma bahasa inggris) yang perlu diketahui dan diasah: reading for general idea/gist (skill yg digunakan di sini biasa disebut skimming) dan reading for specific information (skill yg digunakan disebut scanning).

kedua skill di atas perlu diketahui teknik dan implementasinya, misalnya dalam menjawab pertanyaan dalam IELTS atau TOEFL. bagaimana cara memulainya kalau tidak pernah latihan sama sekali? silakan kerjakan latihan2 dalam buku2 tersebut di bawah ini (diurutkan dari yang paling gamblang dan spesifik mengenai skill apa yang dilatih):

[*]First Impressions (Longman Elementary Reading Skills) by Samuela Eckstut, Diana Lubelska and Sue Parker (Longman:1989)
[*]Reading Elementary (Oxford Supplementary Skills) by Rosemary Scott (Oxford University Press:1987)
[*]Timesaver Read and React: Beginner - Intermediate by Jane Myles (Ed) (Mary Glasgow/Scholastic:2003)


penting: dalam mengerjakan soal2 latihan dalam buku2 di atas, jgn 'tergoda' langsung melihat kunci jawaban sebelum mencoba menjawab. percuma nantinya, skill agan tidak akan terasah. \)

'reduced clause' di sini apanya ya? cara membuat konstruksinya? memahami artinya? apanya?


Quote:
Original Posted By ivandjaw
it depends on the sentence that you are going to use, both of the 1st one are right while the other way of expressing it can't be compared to the original expression as the structure is different

i may be wrong, but i'd say that there are no exact rules that govern this expression cendolb

have you read inside the spoiler? better yet, have you read the entire section of the book i mentioned (i hope you have a copy of it)? have you checked other english language discussion forums talking about this topic? go ahead, google.

come on. you've been here long enough to know how much i appreciate references to print publications, right? besides, have you read my last few lines in that answer? \)
ivandjaw - 13/10/2012 10:16 AM
#5634

Quote:
Original Posted By loc

have you read inside the spoiler? better yet, have you read the entire section of the book i mentioned (i hope you have a copy of it)? have you checked other english language discussion forums talking about this topic? go ahead, google.

come on. you've been here long enough to know how much i appreciate references to print publications, right? besides, have you read my last few lines in that answer? \)


ooppss

my bad, i didnt realize the spoiler part at all haha cendols

yeap, i read your last few lines and i know that are some exceptions. cendolb
loc - 13/10/2012 12:27 PM
#5635

Quote:
Original Posted By ivandjaw
ooppss

my bad, i didnt realize the spoiler part at all haha cendols

yeap, i read your last few lines and i know that are some exceptions. cendolb

check this one out: The chicken is ready to eat.

is it:

[*]because it's feeding time for my pet chicken, or
[*]because the chicken is fried and ready to serve to the family?


bloody confusing language.. ngakaks
BlackCrusader - 13/10/2012 02:24 PM
#5636

mau nanya D
How Lucky am I / How Lucky I am.?
kalunggaezy - 13/10/2012 02:29 PM
#5637

Quote:
Original Posted By loc
have you read page 1, post #1 of this thread? the answer is there.



yes, I have read the first page of course.

but what I have asked above, I do not understand.

it's why I'm asking here.
rokiebottom - 13/10/2012 09:33 PM
#5638

Quote:
Original Posted By BlackCrusader
mau nanya D
How Lucky am I / How Lucky I am.?


'How lucky am I' is a mere interrogative sentence, while 'How lucky I am' is a noun clause. \)

Quote:
Original Posted By kalunggaezy
yes, I have read the first page of course.

but what I have asked above, I do not understand.

it's why I'm asking here.


That's why you should ask google first D.

You and Your both are different pronouns.
as what posted on page 1. You is a subject pronoun and your is a possessive adjective pronoun.
Hope you have known the difference in usage between subject pronoun and possessive adjective pronoun already D.
kalunggaezy - 14/10/2012 12:04 AM
#5639

Quote:
Original Posted By rokiebottom
You and Your both are different pronouns.
as what posted on page 1. You is a subject pronoun and your is a possessive adjective pronoun.
Hope you have known the difference in usage between subject pronoun and possessive adjective pronoun already D.


ok, this is more clear now for me bro, thanks for the explanation \) ..

indeed after I try to use the search feature on my browser, after seeing some examples, I can see the difference to use the phrase.

but maybe it should be studied further, of course D ;) ..
loc - 14/10/2012 01:04 AM
#5640

Quote:
Original Posted By BlackCrusader
mau nanya D
How Lucky am I / How Lucky I am.?


tergantung. mau bertanya? How lucky am I? atau mau berseru/menyatakan kelegaan karena terlepas dari bahaya? How lucky I am!
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