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MraZz - 08/04/2011 04:03 PM
#281
Help urgent, about ACEPT(Academic English Proficiency Test)
Hi guys,
Somebody tell me about Academic English Proficiency Test (ACEPT) please
This test is now used in Gajah Mada University to change the toefl test
What are the different between acept and toefl?
Which one is more difficult?
Can you give me some information about acept? (Tips n trik, direct link, some example task)
Thank you in advanceQualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]
KLanese - 09/04/2011 01:10 PM
#282

Quote:
Original Posted By MraZz
Hi guys,
Somebody tell me about Academic English Proficiency Test (ACEPT) please
This test is now used in Gajah Mada University to change the toefl test
What are the different between acept and toefl?
Which one is more difficult?
Can you give me some information about acept? (Tips n trik, direct link, some example task)
Thank you in advanceQualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]


Hhmmm... never heard such test before. so sorry. perhaps others know about it D
ivandjaw - 09/04/2011 08:20 PM
#283

Quote:
Original Posted By KLanese
Hhmmm... never heard such test before. so sorry. perhaps others know about it D


same here.

do you have any official website regarding the test? what is the institution who make this test?
aSAPlover - 09/04/2011 10:49 PM
#284

Quote:
Original Posted By KLanese

Quote:
Original Posted By MraZz
Hi guys,
Somebody tell me about Academic English Proficiency Test (ACEPT) please
This test is now used in Gajah Mada University to change the toefl test
What are the different between acept and toefl?
Which one is more difficult?
Can you give me some information about acept? (Tips n trik, direct link, some example task)
Thank you in advance[RIGHT]



Hhmmm... never heard such test before. so sorry. perhaps others know about it D




Qualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]

Comparison between [bold]INSTITUTIONAL[/bold] toefl (not international) and AcEPT:

Qualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]


sorry, I only got the AcEPT related info in Bhs Indonesia:
Quote:

Bagi para calon mahasiswa S2/S3 UGM, kesulitan mencapai skor TOEFL/AcEPT yang telah ditetapkan UGM menjadi kendala tersendiri yang harus dicari pemecahannya oleh para calon mahasiswa program S2/S3 ini. Sebenarnya antara TOEFL (paper based) dan AcEPT tidak ada yang perlu dicemaskan. Semuanya memiliki karakter sendiri-sendiri. Yang penting, para calon mahasiswa harus mengenal betul masing-masing karakter ini sehingga tidak terjebak dalam kecemasan yang berlebihan. Berikut ini kami turunkan artikel kecil mengenai TOEFL versus AcEPT.

TOEFL adalah Test of English as a Foreign Language atau Tes Bahasa Inggris sebagai Bahasa Asing. Tes ini mengujikan 3 kemampuan bahasa, yakni: Listening (50 butir soal), Structure (40 butir soal), dan Reading (50 butir soal). Tes ini memiliki tingkat kesulitan tinggi karena dirancang untuk para mahasiswa yang hendak belajar di Amerika dan Kanada. Pembuat soalnya pun berasal dari Amerika Serikat; sementara AcEPT merupakan Academic English Proficiency Test yang mengujikan 5 kemampuan bahasa, yakni: Listening (20 butir soal), Vocabulary (30 butir soal), Structure (40 butir soal), Reading (40 butir soal) dan Composing Skill (40 butir soal). Tes ini juga memiliki tingkat kesulitan cukup tinggi, hampir setara dengan TOEFL. Tes disusun oleh tim pembuat soal dari UGM.


Dari segi peluang untuk mendapatkan skor dapat diperkirakan sebagai berikut:

(1) Peserta tes yang memiliki kemampuan bahasa Inggris yang tidak memadai akan kesulitan mendapatkan skor yang ditetapkan UGM, yakni S2 (TOEFL 450 atau AcEPT 210) dan S3 (TOEFL 500 atau AcEPT 250).

(2) Peserta tes dengan kemampuan memadai diperkirakan akan mampu mendapatkan skor TOEFL 450 atau AcEPT 210 untuk program S2, atau TOEFL 500 atau AcEPT 250 untuk program S3.

(3) Bagi peserta dengan kemampuan terbatas yang gagal mendapatkan TOEFL 450 jika diberikan treatment berupa pelatihan bahasa Inggris 2 bulan, mungkin akan tetap mengalami kesulitan karena peserta ini akan terkendala kesulitan Listening yang memerlukan pembiasaan dalam waktu yang relatif lama; sementara bagi peserta yang gagal mendapatkan skor 210 jika diberikan treatment berupa pelatihan bahasa Inggris 2 bulan peluang untuk berhasil mendapatkan skor 210 terbuka, alasannya:

* Tingkat kesulitan soal Listening dalam tes AcEPT lebih rendah disbanding soal Listening dalam tes TOEFL. Jumlah soalnya pun lebih sedikit, sehingga para peserta yang memiliki kesulitan dalam bagian ini masih terbuka untuk mendapatkan skor yang diharapkan asal memiliki kemampuan Reading yang memadai.
* Soal Vocabulary cakupannya terbatas pada teks-teks yang berhubungan dengan artikel penelitian atau jurnal internasional, sehingga peserta yang terbiasa membaca artikel-artikel di jurnal ilmiah internasional akan mendapatkan kemudahan mengerjakan bagian ini.
* Soal reading hampir sama seperti soal Reading dalam tes TOEFL. Selama ini kekuatan para calon peserta tes TOEFL adalah pada bagian Reading, sehingga jika para peserta belajar dengan benar, dan berhasil meraih nilai maksimal pada soal Reading akan banyak membantu pencapaian skor 210 dalam tes AcEPT.
* Soal Structure hampir sama dengan soal Structure dalam tes TOEFL. Calon peserta tes yang memiliki persiapan baik, akan kemungkinan besar akan dapat mengerjakan bagian ini dengan cukup mudah.
* Soal Composing Skill, memuat kemampuan peserta tes mengenali komposisi kalimat. Jika peserta tes memiliki pengetahuan tatabahasa yang baik, dan memiliki kemampuan reading yang memadai, bagian ini akan menjadi mudah diatasi.

(4) Untuk lebih memantapkan persiapan tes AcEPT, disarankan peserta memahami petunjuk pengerjaan soal (lihat artikel berjudul ‘Mengenal Lebih Dekat tes AcEPT’ dalam blog ini). Disarankan, apabila ada kursus AcEPT yang ditawarkan PPB UGM, peserta dapat mengikuti pelatihan ini karena akan sangat membantu membiasakan diri dengan tes AcEPT.

(5) KUNCI KEBERHASILAN: Anda tahu apa yang harus dipersiapkan untuk menghadapi tes dan bagaimana mempersiapkannya.

(6) Language Corridor sedang dalam proses mempersiapkan Kursus On-line yang dirancang secara step by step untuk membantu para calon mahasiswa S2/S3 UGM mempersiapkan diri menghadapi tes AcEPT.


http://adisutrisno.com/books/sekilas-toefl-versus-acept/
edo072 - 10/04/2011 08:09 PM
#285

hai guys en girls, I want to ask if the Toefl PBT is offered in indonesia, bcoz when I browse in the ETS for location of PBT test in indonesia, what pops out is the location en schedule of iBT test.
thx b4.
aSAPlover - 11/04/2011 10:17 AM
#286

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Original Posted By edo072
hai guys en girls, I want to ask if the Toefl PBT is offered in indonesia, bcoz when I browse in the ETS for location of PBT test in indonesia, what pops out is the location en schedule of iBT test.
thx b4.



no PBT in Indonesia...

The paper-based test is offered in locations where the Internet-based test is not available.

http://www.ets.org/toefl
KLanese - 11/04/2011 10:43 AM
#287

Quote:
Original Posted By aSAPlover
Qualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]

Comparison between [bold]INSTITUTIONAL[/bold] toefl (not international) and AcEPT:

Qualifications, iBT/PBT TOEFL & IELTS+All Related English Courses In Indonesia [Tips]


sorry, I only got the AcEPT related info in Bhs Indonesia:


http://adisutrisno.com/books/sekilas-toefl-versus-acept/


Thanks aSAP, in conclusion, is this test exclusively used only for UGM academic puprposes?
aSAPlover - 16/04/2011 06:22 PM
#288

Quote:
Original Posted By KLanese
Thanks aSAP, in conclusion, is this test exclusively used only for UGM academic puprposes?



Yes, I guess so.

btw, why they prefer AcEPT to Institutional TOEFL?

1.Based on their experience, Indonesian test taker failed mostly in listening section.

2.All postgraduate degrees in UGM are mostly taught in Indonesia not English, but the students still need to know how to comprehend essays, previous researches, journals, articles written mostly in English.


That’s why they reduce the difficulty level in Listening section and adjust the reading section

They will not want to add speaking section because all presentations made by postgraduate students in UGM or other Indonesian Universities are in Bahasa Indonesia not in English…

Futhermore, besides listening test, the speaking test usually makes Indonesian test taker fail as well...

CMIIW
sangprabo - 20/04/2011 06:27 PM
#289

Hi, all..
I plan to take the IBT on June. I have taken the ITP (Institutional Toefl) on February 2009 (so it's expired now) and got more than 550. I'm not sure that I can achieve better score than 80 (according to the score comparison table) since I never study English anymore. In ITP, I just learned from Barron's and practiced 7 days in a row before the test. My questions...

0. Can I just learn from books just like I did on ITP? What book do you recommend? Is it worth to buy the book titled "Official Guide Toefl" which cost IDR 230.000 from ETS?
1. I took the TOEFL practice test on testden.com, but the test is extremely difficult (especially on the speaking section). The topic was about "tornado in united states". Compared to the topic list on this thread (daily activities, "what do you do on your spare time", why do you take IBT), I think it's quite different... \(

PS: I send ETS an email, asking if I can register without using a credit card (online). And they said YES, we can register IBT by transfering to their bank account, and/or come directly to their office in Rasuna Said.iloveindonesia
Discard - 20/04/2011 09:17 PM
#290
Help Needed : IELTS preparation
Excuse me ma'am and sir
Wanna ask some help from ya all
I'm planning to take my IELTS test in mid June.
Can you help me with some preparation for my test?
Aiming for 6.5 or above on my writting
And an average of 6.5 or above as well.
Thanks a lot kaskusers ! ilovekaskusilovekaskusilovekaskus
ivandjaw - 21/04/2011 11:08 AM
#291

You can see my answer directly after your question

Quote:
Original Posted By sangprabo
Hi, all..
I plan to take the IBT on June. I have taken the ITP (Institutional Toefl) on February 2009 (so it's expired now) and got more than 550. I'm not sure that I can achieve better score than 80 (according to the score comparison table) since I never study English anymore. In ITP, I just learned from Barron's and practiced 7 days in a row before the test. of course you can, just be confident and prepare well for your test. you still have about 1-2 months for preparation so use it as good as possible since good and desirable result come with a price \) My questions...

0. Can I just learn from books just like I did on ITP? What book do you recommend? Is it worth to buy the book titled "Official Guide Toefl" which cost IDR 230.000 from ETS? I'm not sure about the official guide toefl provided by ETS, nevertheless you can give it a try if 230k IDR doesn't bother you too much. I used Longm*n preparation book and I have seen quite some people using B*ron's, Kap*an's, and Princet*n review's. Those are well known and established publishers, you should not have any problem using their books for your preparation. Furthermore I would suggest you to look for those who provide cd (Longm*n does this) for your own exercise and also TOEFL test simulation.
1. I took the TOEFL practice test on testden.com, but the test is extremely difficult (especially on the speaking section). The topic was about "tornado in united states". Compared to the topic list on this thread (daily activities, "what do you do on your spare time", why do you take IBT), I think it's quite different... \( There are basically 2 types of speaking, the first one will be on a free topic where you are expected to show your english speaking skills about something that you are familiar, but you are not well prepared in the sense that you only know the topic about 30 seconds before. This is normal though because when you are having conversation with other people in English, it is impossible for him to wait for 1 minute before you reply them. The other one will be on a given topic and the topic may differ test to test. In my opinion the difficulty should be similar and the best way to face this is to make yourself prepared and just be more confident. They are not testing about your knowledge in USA's tornado, they are just testing your ability to understand and conclude the topic by speaking it.

PS: I send ETS an email, asking if I can register without using a credit card (online). And they said YES, we can register IBT by transfering to their bank account, and/or come directly to their office in Rasuna Said.iloveindonesiayeap, you can register and pay for the test at Menara Imperium at Rasuna Said (CMIIW), they provide most of the standardized international test.


Hope it helps.
KLanese - 21/04/2011 11:42 AM
#292

Quote:
Original Posted By aSAPlover
Yes, I guess so.

btw, why they prefer AcEPT to Institutional TOEFL?

1.Based on their experience, Indonesian test taker failed mostly in listening section.

2.All postgraduate degrees in UGM are mostly taught in Indonesia not English, but the students still need to know how to comprehend essays, previous researches, journals, articles written mostly in English.


That’s why they reduce the difficulty level in Listening section and adjust the reading section

They will not want to add speaking section because all presentations made by postgraduate students in UGM or other Indonesian Universities are in Bahasa Indonesia not in English…

Futhermore, besides listening test, the speaking test usually makes Indonesian test taker fail as well...

CMIIW


Well, we look forward to having somebody from ITB post graduate students to share what this test exactly is intended to. On the other hand, I once heard that the ITB screening process for new post graduate student admission program (esp. the English test and TOEFL) is not as hard as the SPMB for the bachelor degree. What do you think people? any experiences?

Quote:
Original Posted By sangprabo
Hi, all..
I plan to take the IBT on June. I have taken the ITP (Institutional Toefl) on February 2009 (so it's expired now) and got more than 550. I'm not sure that I can achieve better score than 80 (according to the score comparison table) since I never study English anymore. In ITP, I just learned from Barron's and practiced 7 days in a row before the test. My questions...

0. Can I just learn from books just like I did on ITP? What book do you recommend? Is it worth to buy the book titled "Official Guide Toefl" which cost IDR 230.000 from ETS?
1. I took the TOEFL practice test on testden.com, but the test is extremely difficult (especially on the speaking section). The topic was about "tornado in united states". Compared to the topic list on this thread (daily activities, "what do you do on your spare time", why do you take IBT), I think it's quite different... \(

PS: I send ETS an email, asking if I can register without using a credit card (online). And they said YES, we can register IBT by transfering to their bank account, and/or come directly to their office in Rasuna Said.iloveindonesia


Hi sangprabo, nice to have you drop by here shakehand
I guess so many links share that book (official Guide TOEFL) for free D
if you have ever taken the iBT TOEFL (even ITP), just save your money. It means you have been familiar with the content and the model of the test.

Furthermore, "testden" is a good website to sharpen your iBT TOEFL skills. Yes, it's quite hard IMHO yet a good source to improve your note-taking quality.

There're 3 payment methods of iBT registration; credit/debit card, e-check, and voucher. If you refuse the online transaction for security reasons (in fact, it's safe), you're advised to buy the voucher (in this case, only ITC jkt is officially assigned as the ETS representative to sell the vouchers)

Quote:
Original Posted By Discard
Excuse me ma'am and sir
Wanna ask some help from ya all
I'm planning to take my IELTS test in mid June.
Can you help me with some preparation for my test?
Aiming for 6.5 or above on my writting
And an average of 6.5 or above as well.
Thanks a lot kaskusers ! ilovekaskusilovekaskusilovekaskus


Anyone can help agan Discard for his/her IELTS problem pls? D
what do you think the most irritating problem of your IELTS gan discard? writing? task1 or task2? shakehand
deus88 - 24/04/2011 12:48 AM
#293
[ASK] Institutional IELTS test center
Hi guys, do any of you happen to know where I can have institutional IELTS test? Any info on the price? I plan to take the institutional as a mock up before taking the real IELTS \)

thx
xntrique - 24/04/2011 06:45 AM
#294

Quote:
Original Posted By Discard
Excuse me ma'am and sir
Wanna ask some help from ya all
I'm planning to take my IELTS test in mid June.
Can you help me with some preparation for my test?
Aiming for 6.5 or above on my writting
And an average of 6.5 or above as well.
Thanks a lot kaskusers ! ilovekaskusilovekaskusilovekaskus


hiya
i can help you out if you need it
i never actually took IELTS because i had TOEFL score but i still needed to take IELTS classes because it was compulsory for me and I was predicted a 8.0 (and that's like... 4 years ago.)
Graduated from UK University and would love to help out \)

PM me anytime \) Make sure you got an exercise book with you
xntrique - 24/04/2011 06:46 AM
#295
Gmat
does anyone here know where we can learn GMAT?
i've never done math in english
I don't actually need the qualification but I want to keep my skills in check with the current international level just for career's sake
xntrique - 24/04/2011 06:56 AM
#296

Quote:
Original Posted By LentoMusic
goodday honorable ts and fellow seniors of the thread.

ive been studying english otodidak-ly (no idea whats the word in english)
and i have certain problems when it comes to speaking, like how you pronounce something correctly, and how you develop speed when talking to others.
any tips?


google translate has that button to pronounce the word if you want to check your pronunciation.
i think oxford dictionary does too for english pronunciation. alternative american pronunciation can also be found in meriam-webster online

if you're doing an IELTS test, you'll be given a topic and then you need to speak for a minute or two (i can't really remember). in that case, you can immediately think of the 5w+1h: what, where, when, why, who and how. i'm sure that takes about the right time. if you need to say a bit more, you can talk about your impressions on the topic (positive or negative). once you get used to the structure, your speed and articulation will be better in no time.
xntrique - 24/04/2011 07:07 AM
#297

Quote:
Original Posted By KLanese
Well, IELTS band 7 and 8 are one of the hardest goals to reach when doing the IELTS Academic test or the IELTS General exam.
I assume you already know what the IELTS exam is and you've probably even been to an IELTS preparation course or an IELTS seminar.
You're probably wondering how you can get to your target of IELTS band 7 or target of IELTS band 8 quickly and easily. Actually, that's not possible. There's a lot of hard work involved and most of that involves vocabulary building. There are no quick tricks to getting a score of 7 or a score of 8 in every section, or even just an overall band score of 7 or an overall band score of 8.

Speaking Tasks:
In the IELTS speaking test, if you’re aiming for band 5 then your level of vocabulary is probably intermediate. If your target is band 7 then you must have advanced level vocabulary and should expect to use jargon - words specific to an industry.

A band 5 speaker might say.
“Australia has a lot of money at the moment and so everyone can spend more on houses."

A band 7 speaker might say
“Australia’s economic position is quite superior, in comparison to other countries' economies. As a result, more of the population is investing in property.”
Can you see the difference?
So even if you could somehow memorise the answers to previous IELTS tests in the hope of getting an IELTS score of 7, you're not going to pass the speaking part if you don't know the vocabulary.
The same is true for writing. If you are planning to do the General IELTS exam, here are a couple of examples:

Writing Tasks:
Here is an example from a letter by an IELTS 5 writer:
"Recently I buy saltanas bag from your shop. It is bad. It has not end date on it"

Here is an example from a General Task 1 letter by an IELTS 7 writer:
"I am writing to complain about the poor treatment I have received from your establishment. Having purchased a bag of sultanas from your store, promoted as being fresh, I had been looking forward to including them in my cereal this morning. Unfortunately, what greeted me when I unsealed the bag was a mouldy sticky mess that could hardly be described as being fresh, let alone edible. To add insult to injury, there was no expiry date on the bag."
f you are planning to do the Academic IELTS exam, here are a couple of examples:

Here is an example from an Academic Task 1 graph description by an IELTS 5 writer. The graph contains statistics of sushi rolls eaten in 2009.

"This graph say that 80,000 people eat salmon sushi rolls at Sydney in January 2009. Also that 50,000 people eat teriyaki chicken rolls at Sydney in January 2009. This says that more people eat fish more than chicken."

Here is an example from an Academic Task 1 graph description by an IELTS 7 writer. The graph contains statistics of sushi rolls eaten in 2009.

"With reference to graph number 1, which displays the statistics of sushi rolls eaten by members of the public in Sydney in January 2009, we can see that 80,000 salmon sushi rolls and 50,000 teriyaki chicken rolls were consumed. This suggests that people in Sydney prefer fish over chicken."

Here is an example of a General Task 2 essay body paragraph excerpt from an IELTS 5 writer for General IELTS writing. The question is on whether children should be encouraged to study more and play less sport.

"Sport is really good and helps make your body better. It is lots of fun and good for kids. The sport is important for thinking too as you can think better if you are feeling good. My brother play sport and I think he is really smart too"

Here is an example of a General Task 2 essay body paragraph excerpt from an IELTS 7 writer for General IELTS writing. The question is on whether children should be encouraged to study more and play less sport.

"Physical activity is necessary to help promote healthy bodily functions. Removing sport from the syllabus would encourage the development of obesity and other problems. Not only does sport improve fitness, it also helps the mind. My brother is a laywer and regularly uses the gym to help improve his thinking processes"

Here is an example of an Academic Task 2 essay body paragraph excerpt from an IELTS 5 writer for Academic IELTS writing. The question is on whether children's involvement in sporting activities will greatly reduce their capacity to compete when they reach an employable age.

"A physical lifestyle is recommended for any child as the negative effects of laziness far outweighs the time that might be spent on keeping fit. It is necessary, though, to make sure that this time is chosen well, and that there is balance between study and sport, so that they are more likely to be able to pass through the interview and get a job."

Here is an example of an Academic Task 2 essay body paragraph excerpt from an IELTS 7 writer for Academic IELTS writing. The question is on whether children's involvement in sporting activities will greatly reduce their capacity to compete when they reach an employable age.

"It is crucial that our young participate enthusiastically in the sporting arena so that they may be imbued with a sense of understanding regarding their vigour and the value of their lymphatic system. Indolence is anathema to progress, and physical fitness would enable them to advance to and reach their goals and aspirations. Nonetheless, it is vital that equilibrium be found between periods spent on learning and those spent on sport so that this happy medium can result in successful career goals in the future."

So, now that you've read these examples and can see for yourself what it is that makes the difference between a band 5 IELTS student and a band 7 IELTS student, what can you do about it now to improve the chance of getting an overall band score of 7, or even a 7 in every section?

1. Read novels
The first thing you can do is start reading many, many novels. It doesn't matter what novels they are as long as you enjoy reading the story. You should be spending a half hour in the morning and a half hour in the evening reading and learning new adjectives and adverbs.

To help you to quickly learn these words you need to use them. Each time you discover a new word, write it in your vocabulary book and create a sentence with it. Then, during the day, try to use it in a sentence when speaking.

You should be learning 10 new words every day. If you believe you're band 5 now it'll take you at least 6 months of daily English study to get to band 7. It has been said that for some students of English that you increase your overall IELTS score by 0.5 point for every 6 months of intensive study. It depends on how quickly you learn, how often you learn and what you're doing while you're learning.

2. Write every day.
Write in a journal or diary. Write using the new words you've learnt. Write letters and essays. Write about graphs if you're doing the Academic exam. But you must write every day. You should be spending at least an hour of writing every day, preferably two. That's not 5 days with 2 days off. That's every day!!!

These are the two main things you should be doing. If you're not doing these, you're not going to increase your listening, reading, writing or speaking skills. After all, how are you going to answer the questions if you don't know the words???

3. Find an English tutor.
You will need to practice your IELTS writing and speaking skills. What you need is an IELTS preparation tutor.

4. Stop speaking in your native language
This is probably the most important. There is no point flying to an English speaking country if you then spend most of your time with your friends speaking your native language. It could take you 10 tries to pass IELTS test, maybe more. If you want to get IELTS 7 quickly you have to stop speaking your native language. That means avoiding your friends for a year, getting a part time job only in an English speaking company and only talking with your family in English.

I hope this article helps you to reach your goal of IELTS band 7 or IELTS band 8.


wow man, that's a really good example of what a band 7+ type of answers would be like. where did you get them?

oh um a little tip i learned from my teacher: learn your connectives like however, nevertheless, furthermore, even so, incidentally, in the light of the above, so you can convey your ideas in logical manner. it helps a lot.

also, nearer to the date, you might want to crunch some 4+ syllable words and really practice to describe things (and graphs!) that's where the juries start giving you scores \)

hope it helps!

xoxo
xntrique - 24/04/2011 07:13 AM
#298

Quote:
Original Posted By xixixipeople
sight..i only got 21 of 33 question that correct from the site you gave me...
my my..........
any way....

in my collage toefl test i got toefl score 503...at least for going aboard (i.e Malaysia, or Singapore) just need get score 550...(thats my lecturer said to me)
i don't know is it my collage test is that good enough...or not ? (UINJ)

my question is...

which is the best test that should i do for going to Australia or England ?

its very help full if you answer my question...i must and i need to go aboard...to go away from poverty....


hi babe, don't be discouraged! just practice and you'll get a lot more correct answers in the actual tests \)

i personally think it's better to take TOEFL even if you're going to Australia or England because they accept that certificate anyway. I personally think that TOEFL is MUCH easier to learn than IELTS, and certainly the latter takes much more practice, at least for me.

and i am not kidding anyone, especially on the writing test. I got full mark on writing for TOEFL, but for my IELTS I scored so bad AFTER taking the TOEFL. It makes the standard SO obvious.

Go take the easiest one to meet the conditions for your applications. check the uni's website to know your target. if after that you want to learn more, you can get more courses or you can teach yourself at uni. it is assumed that once you meet the uni's criteria, you'll be at that level, so do not be afraid.

lotsa luvkiss
xntrique - 24/04/2011 07:35 AM
#299

Quote:
Original Posted By rahan
hi all, I guess I'll take my time to share my IELTS experience here.
Usually people called my line of work as 'English Teacher.' However, I prefer the word 'English presenter.'

I took this test @ IALF Jakarta two months ago. Well, what i can say is this:
1. keep your concentration level high(what i mean is you need to focus) especially when you are doing the LISTENING section.
2. calm yourself during the interview session. This native speaker won't bite you. \).

It's not that difficult. You can do it. It's kinda fun.

Is it expensive? For me, yes it is. But it's worth the experience.

If you're in Jakarta and need a private tutor for this test, maybe I can help.
Or maybe not. Ciao


yea.. listening is always a bit tricky. do you get headphones?
torres_oyoy - 24/04/2011 03:36 PM
#300

hey, im nubie here o
i wanna ask some questions regarding toefl..
ive read the 1st page,
assuming toefl international is the real toefl, and im planning to take a scholarship, so CMIIW i must take the toefl international instead of prediction/institutional..

since i live in jakarta, where can i get that test? if i need to apply for scholarship, which one would be proper, PBT, CBT, or IBT or would it be worth IELTS? if both TOEFL/IELTS are allowed

thanks in advance
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