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cytotecku - 05/04/2012 12:56 AM
#221

No one of them is less important,

Vocab n Grammar are important in learning English

IMO. The important thing is "Practice makes perfect". . .
akbarkucel - 05/04/2012 10:00 PM
#222

I think language is the way of communication, as long as the people who become your partners can understand what your talking about. that is language. no metter your grammar is true or not.
etavelta - 05/04/2012 11:21 PM
#223

Quote:
as far as I know,
the point of conversation is, I can understand and she/he can understand what we are talking about


Nah you get the point \)

People have their own abilities, some good at grammar, and the rest good at their vocabs.
gogofun - 10/04/2012 04:29 PM
#224

Quote:
Original Posted By GreatSultan


Yeah
One of my lecturer once said that one of her student is quite good in grammar, but he didn't pay too much attention on his vocabulary skill DD

So when he did his exams, he always add word "F*ck" and "Sh*t" in nearly every sentence in his essay. When asked, he didn't know what does those means, he only use them just because he always hears it on movies hammer:hammer:


result from studying English by movies. lol ngakakngakak
joranx - 22/04/2012 06:27 PM
#225

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Original Posted By fransnoel
if i were u, i'll choose both of them. they can't be separated D


yeah

but just always have in ur mind

NOT TO TEACH GRAMMAR EXPLICITELY!!! :angel
ulrichwarehouse - 23/04/2012 12:07 AM
#226

Quote:
Original Posted By 15091988
The key is, your pronounciation must sounds cooler and faster than real american
Trust me your broken grammar will never be noticed
Because I experienced that, someone spoke like that with broken grammar and false part of speech
You know what, my lecturer said that this person had a really good english

From this story, as long as we understand each other, grammar is not that important


how do you come with that statement? are you native?
server002 - 23/04/2012 11:26 AM
#227

grammar first ! at least, we know how to answer the test
DimasMaulana - 29/04/2012 11:47 AM
#228

Quote:
Original Posted By badseyjuang
hi all
I have a question , n sometimes make me confused
I have learned english almost three years,
I Have problem with grammar,
because, when I do conversation with grammar,
that make me blank :O
every word's in my mind will be lost when I wanna speak
when I speak with ignored grammar, I can speak fastly.

an as far as I know,
the point of conversation is, I can understand and she/he can understand what we are talking about

what the best method for learning grammar friend's ??
I have bad grammar D
because grammar is important too for toefl test and etc.

please help me iloveindonesia iloveindonesia iloveindonesia


i have a problem like you too, and i think this is languange, and we must be use it for many time. CMIIW
sanfario - 30/04/2012 12:27 AM
#229

I think the order is like this ...
1. Listening >--- (vocabulary + pronunciation)
2. Speaking >--- (vocabulary + pronunciation)
3. Reading >--- (vocabulary + pronunciation)
4. Writing >--- (vocabulary + pronunciation + grammar)

In my opinion, for beginner or elementary level, u should try to focus your self into vocabularies and basic conversation. Make your ear, and your lips accustomed to English first. you can try by listening to music, movies, news and then try to pronounce it. Read aloud a simple stories or manga and translating them will help you in developing your pronunciation skill and learn vocabularies at the same time. you also can try to learn basic grammar like simple present tense, past tense or future tense along the way ...

For the intermediate or advance level, you have to study both vocabularies and grammar and use it in speaking and writing. Reading English book/novel/literature and translating them will greatly improve your English. You also can try to express your ideas in paragraphs or other writing formats. \)
william4fs - 30/04/2012 09:43 AM
#230

Quote:
Original Posted By akbarkucel
I think language is the way of communication, as long as the people who become your partners can understand what your talking about. that is language. no metter your grammar is true or not.


definitely,bro!
niz2 - 30/04/2012 06:32 PM
#231

Quote:
Original Posted By Sticker12
i think we have to understand the basic tenses and know more vocabulary.i have a same experience with you,i dont really like grammar,so i just improve my vocabulary.because i believe that five basic tenses help me to learn other tenses naturally.


yups... I agree with U

I think,,, grammar is nothing without vocabulary \)
wiendandiwant - 30/04/2012 07:37 PM
#232

I think they are equally important when you are learning English. Grammar is like base or foundation when learning English. If you have good grammar, you can learn more vocab and utilize correct English later on. Although you know many vocabs, without proper grammar you will speak like an uneducated person.
nardo.siagian - 01/05/2012 01:32 PM
#233

it's according to your needs i think..,the collaburation of them is needed....

KingPhuKang - 10/05/2012 01:59 PM
#234

Vocab first!!!
Grammar is not really necessary.
If u ever talk with american.Listen to the detail of it sentences,u will realize their grammar are awful.
They use slang words ngakak
dhygta - 15/05/2012 11:55 PM
#235

the best way to learning english it's your interest
ferdiantoo - 16/05/2012 12:49 PM
#236

Quote:
Original Posted By badseyjuang
hi all
I have a question , n sometimes make me confused
I have learned english almost three years,
I Have problem with grammar,
because, when I do conversation with grammar,
that make me blank :O
every word's in my mind will be lost when I wanna speak
when I speak with ignored grammar, I can speak fastly.

an as far as I know,
the point of conversation is, I can understand and she/he can understand what we are talking about

what the best method for learning grammar friend's ??
I have bad grammar D
because grammar is important too for toefl test and etc.

please help me iloveindonesia iloveindonesia iloveindonesia


i think u need practice and practice more
grammarian - 19/05/2012 10:03 PM
#237
Learn Grammar and Vocabulary Simultaneously!
Such a good question you asked here.

As a matter of fact, nothing is more important than another. And that holds true in learning a foreign language. Don't discriminate. Learn all, even topics that you hate most.

I used to hate Speaking during my freshman year. I was too shy to speak a word in public. I'd rather write a long composition in English than speak English where other people are around me and watch and listen to me while I am making so many mistakes. But then I realized I couldn't acquire English better if I kept discriminating like this. I learned to like Speaking and it worked!\)b
LiquidSteel - 24/05/2012 11:40 PM
#238

u should study them both
when u learn grammar, vocab will follow unconciously
and vice versa
impulse.beat - 28/05/2012 06:07 PM
#239

grammar always be a nightmare for me hammer:
in every English test, especially TOEFL i got more on everything except grammar..
i always think if person that i want to talk id understand what i say , so i don't need grammar..
but for looking for a scholarship grammar needed hammer:
kenkakashi - 06/06/2012 01:55 PM
#240

Vocab first and then basic grammar and then progressive and past grammar
vocab is important because grammar based on vocab
example:

vocab for present and past and progressive (continuous)
Buy Bought Bought Buying
Write Wrote written Writing

If you don't have good vocab you will have difficulty in understanding grammar
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